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#1 2007-07-05 14:51:39

bamer
Junta Member
Registered: 2005-05-27
Posts: 98

Stalling

Here's my favorite rule that lots of players (including very experienced ones) get wrong:

Stalling: The period of time within which a thrower must release a throw may be timed by the stall count.
The stall count consists of announcing stalling and counting from one to ten loudly enough for the thrower to hear.

Here's the link: http://www.upa.org/ultimate/rules/11th#XIV

Whenever a marker starts his stall count with "ONE" & I say "Fast Count" he looks at me like I have 2 heads. smile

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#2 2007-07-09 16:55:13

Will Maddix
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Registered: 2005-05-23
Posts: 78

Re: Stalling

Thanks, Brian!  Yep, it's definitely a fast count if you don't announce "stalling" whenever you start a count (or re-start it after a stoppage).  I'd like to add on to your post by pointing out that in the 11th edition of the rules, which went into effect in spring 2007, three things that used to be considered "fast counts" aren't anymore:

1.  After you say stalling, you DON'T have to wait a second before you say "ONE" anymore.  The old way was that you were supposed to say "stalling," then wait a second, and then say "ONE."  But now you can just say "stallingONE" as if it's all one word, and it's not a "fast count."

2.  Those folks who put a word in between their numbers ("THREEmississippi...FOURmississippi...FIVEmississippi...," for example) are NOT fast-counting anymore.  The old rules said that you had to put a full second between the start of each WORD you said.  The new rules say you just have to make sure there's a full second between the start of each NUMBER you say.  Anything said between those numbers is irrelevant.

3.  Let's say you're a marker who was just called for a specific marking violation ("fast count," for example).  The new rules say you just drop one number in the stall count and keep going. Let me use an example to demonstrate this last one.  In the old rules, if you were saying "SIX...SEVEN...EIGHT" and then you heard "fast count," you were then supposed to say "stalling" all over again before continuing "SEVEN...EIGHT."  (And if you didn't add that new "stalling" it was a fast count.)  But in the new edition, you don't have to use that word "stalling" when you drop in the count.  So the same situation in which the thrower called "fast count" after eight would be stalled like this:  "SIX...SEVEN...EIGHT...SEVEN...EIGHT...etc."

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